A recent episode of โWooooo! Nationโ with Ric Flair featured former WCW color commentator, and current Pittsburgh sports radio broadcaster Mark Madden. Courtesy of my good friend Mark Adam Haggerty and DailyWrestlingNews.com, below are some highlights:
This show tends to run off the rails from time to time, so itโs up to producer Conrad Thompson to act as the conductor. Engineer? Who drives a train? Conrad asks broad questions and gives both Madden and Flair time to respond on various issues. Ric says that he first met Mark Madden in 1986 when he came to a show at the โIglooโ in Pittsburgh to present the โNature Boyโ with a commemorative plaque. They actually met nearly a year earlier when Madden conducted an interview with Flair for the Post-Gazette. Thatโs why he was bringing a plaqueโit was the article. They start with small talk, and Conrad asks Madden if heโs ever wanted to get back into wrestling. He says that heโs not upset he never got into it again because there isnโt a place for someone like him given todayโs political climate. He says that most WWE and TNA broadcasters focus on the positives and never highlight the negative, which is something he was known to do as a โheel announcer.โ
Conrad asks Mark what led to his exodus from World Championship Wrestling just months before the promotion was purchased by Vince McMahon. He says that while it wasnโt his choice to leave, he was happy to go given the current state of the company. He says that Diamond Dallas Page was the one who convinced the โPowers that Beโ to fire Madden. When Conrad asks why, Mark says: โBecause DDP was a sensitive bitch and I heeled on him pretty hard this one time and he didnโt like it.โ Mark Madden says he coined the nickname โD.D.Meโ because he feels Diamond Dallas Page is the most self-serving person to ever work in the industry. โHogan looked tame by comparison!โ Of DDP Yoga, Mark Madden says: โIf it works thatโs fine. And the stuff heโs doing with Jake and Scott Hall is fine. I just trust charity a lot more when somebody doesnโt call a camera crew every time they do something.โ DDP wanted to go on Maddenโs radio show about ten years ago to promote DDP Yoga when it was still โin its infancy,โ and when he called the radio station he told Markโs producer: โOh Iโm an old friend from WCW.โ Upon hearing the news, he told his producer: โFuck that guy, weโre not friends.โ Several weeks later, DDP was talking to Kevin Nash, and Dallas told him that Madden refused to have him on his show. Nash said, โPageโyou got him FIRED!โ DDP was so unaware of anything but himself that he responded with: โYou think heโs still mad about that?โ Conrad asks if DDP is the most overrated wrestler of all time. Madden says, โHe was a competent midcard wrestler, but favoritism and cronyism is what put him over the top.โ
Conrad asks both Ric and Mark for their comments on the NWOโs โFour Horsemenโ skit. Mark says that he felt some parts were very funny, including Sean Waltmanโs depiction of Ric Flair. Flair said that he didnโt particularly care one way or the other, but was hurt because of how it โcrushed Arn.โ Ric says that Arn had a 12-year old son at home watching his father depicted as a drunk. The worst part, to Ric, was the fact that the entire segment was written and produced by Terry Taylorโone of Arnโs longtime friends and colleagues. When the promo was over, Sting walked up to Ric and told him: โThatโs the coldest thing Iโve ever seen in my life.โ Ric says that Kevin Nash lampooned the โreal emotionโ between Ric and Arn, which hurt them both deeply. What bothered Ric most was that the Horsemen were offered no chance to make a rebuttal.
Conrad asks Mark if WCW announcers had to contend with a list of words they couldnโt say, or if producers were ever โscreaming in their ear.โ Mark says that if there was a list, he didnโt know about it. And probably wouldnโt have followed it. He says that โguys who worked for Vinceโ would come in and start yelling in the headsetโguys like the aforementioned Terry Taylor. Mark eventually told them, โListen, if you have a good ideaโand I mean a GOOD idea, then tell me. Otherwise stay out of my way.โ The overproduction in the headset is said to have ceased from that point forward. Mark says that Tony Schiavone is one of the greatest wrestling broadcasters of all time, but perhaps overworked himself. He was at one time appearing on Nitro, Thunder, Saturday Night, and pay-per-views. In addition to his on-air duties, Tony was in charge of the other announcers, and had an array of duties around WCWโs office. Tony has moved on to work in baseball broadcasting, and Ric mentions that he threw the first pitch at a recent game. Ric says, โIโve got to get to a place where I can throw the ball to home plate.โ
They talk about Ric Flairโs WWE sponsored autobiography that Mark was asked to โtweakโ after the original author failed to deliver what Triple H and Vince McMahon envisioned. Mark says that he was brought into a board room with Ric, Vince, and Hunter, and Vince said: โThis book isnโt good enough. Can you make it better?โ Ric says that Mark made his book legible and Madden interrupts: โUh, noโI made your book great.โ They both agree that the problem wasnโt the original authorโs style, but his affinity for Bruno Sammartino and ignorance toward the true legacy of Ric Flair. Madden says the book needed to be written by a Ric Flair fan, because otherwise, this โis just a book about some wrestler.โ Ric says that the first author made him sound like Freddie Blassie: โHe made it sound like every other word out of my mouth is F, F, F! Iโm not going to pretend I donโt say it, but not like that.โ
They wrap things up and talk about the current state of TNA. Mark Madden blames all of their troubles on the ego of Dixie Carter. He says that her ego will not allow her to take a step back, and let people who know what theyโre doing take control. He says that going backwards in terms of paying talents per appearance is a sign of the end, especially since there are only a handful of drawing stars left under contract. He says that Kurt Angle is in a strange predicament; he calls him a โTop 5โ athlete who belongs in the same conversation as Ric Flair and Shawn Michaels. He says that Kurt has always been the greatest wrestler as long as heโs been performing, and that hasnโt changed since heโs gone to work for TNA. Mark feels that the โstench of TNAโ is what makes people feel that Kurt Angle isnโt as good as he used to be. They slow down the conversation and talk about basketball and college football, before sending things home for another week on โWooooo! Nation.โ
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